Everything I've said this week has been absolutely spot on.
I forecasted a drab 0-0. between 'the two most direct teams in the Premiership'. I told you it would be the last match on MOTD too. I told you that Villa were 'the new Stoke' and that is now indisputable. Yes, we are now difficult to beat and as I've told you before, we are now a 'horrible team to play' (just like Tony Pulis' Stoke). Unfortunately we are a horrible team to watch.
I recognise what Lambert has achieved in making us hard to beat, but we have no quality whatsoever in our play. We have less possession than any team in the Premiership. We cannot keep the ball at all. We 'hoof' at every opportunity and even West Ham, under Big Sam gave us a footballing lesson today. I liked Lambert but I did believe his philosophy was a positive one. That's what I want to see at Villa. Not a team peddling this anti-football stuff.
This is Lambert's team and he has to be accountable for it. Everyone seems to be going on about needing two quality midfielders and they are right. BUT Lambert has bought in a whole host of identikit, limited midfielders; El Ahmadhi, Westwood, Sylla, Bacuna, Tonev. These are the 'Lambert' type players. Like O'Neill, he's not going to bring in quality. Only a certain type of hard running, limited player.
I'm not happy with FOUR goalless games. I'm not happy with 8 points in 9 games. I'm not happy with 6 goals in 9 games. I'm not happy with awful, ugly football. I'm not happy with having the lowest ball retention in the Premiership. I AM happy we're now hard to beat but frankly the cons outweigh the pros at the moment.
Lionbrad, you are back to your depressing best.
We are 7 points better off than last season in the corresponding fixtures, our GD is better by 13, we have scored 2 more goals against the corresponding fixtures, and we have 3 more clean sheets. These are all positives.
Next up is Cardiff (corresponding to Wigan last season, a game we lost 3-0).
You keep going on about this beautiful football, when did we play this before? Not for many years.
Lambert has a plan, but it will take time, in the mean time we continue to build under financial restraint ensuring that we will be around for years to come.
Keep the faith and for beautiful football watch Barcelona. UTV
This is just the type of " GLASS HALF EMPTY " article that i was referring to in my post yesterday .
Lionbrad please use all your footballing management skill`s and tell me as well as other`s exactly what you would do to change thing`s at Villa at the moment .
The crux of the matter in my opinion is the Premiership is at the moment made up of team`s that can be listed as follow`s the have`s and the have not`s financially with Villa sadly even though we have a rich owner in the have not band . The effect this has on our team is we cannot compete with those Club`s who have significantly more fund`s at there manager`s disposal to fetch in the quality player`s you so desperately yearn to be signed by Villa never will we see these signing`s for Villa until we can establish a team that can improve there league position up to a minimum of qualifying for Europe .
The matter of play slot on MOTD has totally threw me what is the difference where our game is shown and what difference will it make to our club . The only down side to last play slot is your hot chocolate may well be a little colder than if we were on first .
The lack of imagination by Lambert in his signing`s ? .
What is he supposed to do with the fund`s given to him and as you are obviously not satisfied with his signing`s this is a open discussion forum start putting together some answer`s naming some player`s that we should have signed instead or is that not your problem .
We have a team that is by your own admission hard to beat we now have a defense that is hard to break down . Now correct me if i am wrong but in the rule`s and laws of the game of Association Football as laid down in the Football League Rule book all those year`s ago is it not the team that concede`s more goal`s than there opponent`s that will lose games and score no point`s from that game .
What do you want a performance by our team that enter`s every match all gun`s blazing no care for defense only tippy tappy football that is easy on the eye with a smattering of goal`s after 40/50 passes and result`s that end up Villa 2 opposition 8/9 but we put on a good show for the fan`s .
In all seriousness i do understand that what Lambert is doing here is not to every one`s liking and some fan`s cannot see the bigger picture 2/3 season`s ahead but if you want the perfect game with perfect result`s and world class player`s in Villa side then i am afraid you better sell your season ticket if you have one and invest in a PS3 or XBOX and by a fantasy football manager game as at Villa at the moment we are in a rebuilding process that will take time and not come to fruition for at least 2 season`s from now if you can wait around however then the pro`s will out weigh the con`s at that time and this will have been done at half the price that the top six side`s in the prem have payed for there success in player signing`s .
Eagerly awaiting you reply Lionbrad
Jesus, Villa on the Xbox would be a big project. Would take a few seasons there as well!
Though Gabby and Nzogbia's pace on the wings would be handy on the wings....;-)
RIZLA - It's simple.
I looked at the strength of the Premiership before the season started and I predicted a 13th-place finish (It's on here somewhere). I am sticking with that prediction, Like last season, I believe that up to 10 clubs will struggle to make themselves 'safe'. Villa are one of those clubs, but unlike some others (and there are some very poor teams around), we have now developed a little steel to our game. We are now one of those 'horrible' sides that are hard to beat but terrible to watch. In short, we are resilient but very limited.
Please don't accuse me of expecting lovely, flowing, winning football and not being realistic. I am a realist and like I say, I'm sticking to my prediction of 13th place this season. This weekend, I've heard calls for Hughton to go at Norwich, Jol to go at Fulham, depressed fans of Sunderland and Palace and so on.....I know what's going on.
My gripe is with the STYLE of football and lack of QUALITY. Like you say, we've had years of mediocre football at Villa. You probably have to go back to O'Leary's first season at the club, to find any decent football to watch. At times, we were good to watch on the counter-attack under MON but that's about it. I thought that Lambert would change that. Or at least if he didn't bring quality, he would bring an attacking philosophy. After all, he seemed to at Norwich.
Sadly, the football is poor, the outlook is safety first and the prospects for the season are not exciting. Rizla, we ARE the 'new Stoke'. Pulis is reborn at Villa Park and I for one do not want it. If you disagree then disagree but I'd ask you not to patronise. Others have a view too you know.
I am on the opposite side of the argument to you Lionbrad but there are some things that we have in common.
I want to see attacking attractive football the real question is how do we get it?
We can go for the buy it style and send ourselves into a spiral of debt down the divisions.
Or we can build it within our resources and that takes time. In my time as a Villa supporter there have been many false dawns with only one actually delivering and that was Ron Sanders (also a time when Ellis was not there). Ron didn't spend big bucks he actually sold Andy Gray, making us a selling club I suppose but he used the money to buy Peter Withe, I also recall us playing Everton three times in the cup, following that Ron went and bought Ken McNaught from them, adding bits and pieces all the time to add to his goal winning the league and the European cup.
I would say we are now on that path again building, some players will be signed and moved on because they have served their purpose with other better players replacing them. It all takes time and I for one am completely fed up with the promise and hype we have had over the years of jam tomorrow that never comes.
I am willing to wait and build, Lambert has a plan, I haven't a clue what that is in detail but he is working towards financial stability and building a good team in the process.
I do concede one thing to you though Lionbrad - it is his team and the midfielders he has signed so far are not good enough and he needs to attend to that very soon.
The talk of Westwood playing for England is nonsense at least for now and yesterday as Benteke ran through into the area KEA passed a ball 15 feet away from him that missed his run by at least 10 feet - No wonder he isn't scoring with the service we give him, when Lowton crossed as he did last year Benteke was unlucky and hit the bar with a terrific header.
Onwards and Upwards
Lionbrsd no doubt every Villa fan has a opinion and they are entitled to voice there opinion`s on forum`s like this .
As you have just stated 13th place is your guess as to where we will end up come season`s end .
We are now in just that place after 10 games and after we have played some of the more superior quality Club`s in the prem and taking two victories from them games Arsenal and Man City .
The table never lie`s so if we are attaining your predicted finishing spot already why is that such a problem if the football is not to standards expected as i stated what would you rather have free flowing football with no structure what so ever pleasing on the eye as the Boys put a good show on for the fan`s but ended up losing by several goal`s or should we play a more controlled game locking team`s out and playing to our team`s strength`s not the opposition .
The new signing`s that the Club has made in the summer has not had chance to settle in to our team as yet with only limited game time been given to them all as they play more games and find there feet then we should expect a improvement from them .
What i say is let`s have a look at our team at Xmas and see if we still occupy the 13th spot in the prem then and if not if we have slipped drastically down the prem between now and then then Lionbrad i will join in open criticism of Lambert and his playing style but to bemoan performance`s after 10 game`s with the Team sitting in your predicted finishing position already this season is i personally feel harsh to say the least .
am i the only one who couldn't give a toss about the style of play, as long as we win games? you get points for wins and draws, not for pretty football (though of course, if we could have both, then great!)
At last the sound of common sense Umma .
The priority we must have at Villa for the next two season`s at least is premiership survival and progression if we play open attractive football that has Lawro and Savage on MOTD positively waxing lyrical about our style and quality all the better but if not so be it .
If we escape relegation by one point at season`s end however unlikely that may well be . Then the point that was ground out so negatively yesterday will be priceless we could have gone in to the game and thrown caution to the wind and got blasted of the park with a massive defeat to boot but no we held our line in a manner however unpleasing to football purist`s and come away with a point to add to our season`s tally .
I hope to see improvement`s in quality of match play as the season progresses but as long as we can grind out result`s like yesterday i am not bothered .
Lionbrad - in one way you're right. I suspect most people forecast a drab 0-0, even those who like me who think overall Villa is going in the right direction. Like Bruce at Hull before him, Sam is a realist. His priority was not to lose; it was a game to make sure he at least got a point out of it. He has the players to make that highly likely. Lambert is also a realist. He knew that going all out for a win would open us up to Sam getting three points not one. Hence the 3-5-2 formation, together with the chance that Benteke or someone might just nick the goal which would almost certainly decide the match, in our favour. Not pretty, not what you'd want to see, but Lambert I think rightly is flexible enough to organise the team to deal with the opposition. Points matter, particularly at this stage of the season. Next week against Cardiff we'll play a much different system.
Like O'Neill, he's not going to bring in quality. Only a certain type of hard running, limited player. No, not like O' Neill. Lambert's from the German school, he puts far more emphasis on top level fitness than MON. That's why MON's teams ran out of steam towards the end of the season, why Houllier had such opposition from players when he took over because they had to work far harder. What saved us last season was the hard work the players put in during those early dark month; they had the fitness to put in an extended run when some other teams were fading. You look at teams like Arsenal, Man C. Great football, great to watch, and they do it so easily. They do it easily because they have that top level of fitness. Top level fitness isn't everything, far from it. But you have to have it to get anywhere. Lambert knows it, and that's why you see it in his players, or most of them.
You complain about the players he's brought it. But one problem with those players is that they don't have the fitness. Yet. No player from the European mainland who comes to this country does. It takes time. Why do you think Newcastle struggled in the second half of last season even though they'd bought some, on paper, cracking players in January? The players weren't fit enough. This season they are. Likewise Giroud at Arsenal; flop last season, star this.
Lambert's tried passing football. It didn't work badly, but it didn't work well enough. I've no doubt he'll try it again; he's never a long-ball enthusiast. I'll bet he does the passing stuff in training. But, at the moment, he'll go for getting points where he can, which given we're down in 13th is a very good idea. We've got some games coming up where we can win at least some and not lose any, except maybe at Man U. I want us to get as many points from those games as we can, however we do it, because it'll make a huge difference to the rest of the season. Patience is the key word; we have to attack the season as a whole, and points and places matter, at the moment more than pretending we're Barcelona, or even Swansea.