Perhaps as United fans it is difficult for us to appreciate talents at other clubs. 

But being objective I'm sure we can all see the talent and potential that young Jack Wilshere has. I've watched Arsenal a fair amount this season, and you have to sit there and admire the way they play the game.

The difference from previous years? Jack. He just brings a level of calm. Surprising calm, given his age. 


It's hard for us as England fans to get excited over anything at the moment. Especially when we are told to be excited over a young player as soon as he arrives. Again though, there is a difference from the norm. Jack isn't a 16 year old who banged in a 30 yarder. He didn't dribble past 4 or 5 players to score a wonder goal.  

 He has played proper football. Consistently. At one of the best clubs in our league. He's not once looked out of place.


For once as a fan of England, you can feel as though things are on the up. Surely?

It's not just Wilshere is it? Mceachran at Chelsea looks a fine player! He'll have no problem settling in a long side Jack in that Side in the coming years. If we are to believe the hype Morrison will be in the United team in a couple of seasons, which would surely lead him to the England XI (Providing he behaves) .

Then we go into the lower leagues. Oxlade-Chamberlain, 17? Really? Southampton's best player when United played them a few years ago.


Then you look at what we already have. Rooney, 25. Walcott, 21. Andy Carroll, 22.


It's not so depressing after all. Is it???

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Personally I don't rate Wilshere that highly. He's a decent young player who's benefiting form being part of a very good midfield at Arsenal. While England play 4-4-2 he won't play well enough at International level. He doesn't control the game well enough. He's a good player, don't get me wrong, but I don't think he's got the vision and decision making needed to control matches against the best. An attacking midfielder in the Ozil mould for me. Needs a controller and a destroyer alongside him. I think its time Huddlestone got the call up. He's the only young English player who could fulfill at least one of those roles.


Which leads me onto my other point. Yes we have some great young strikers, and wingers and attacking midfielders. We've got decent young full-backs, promising centre backs and good keepers. But we've got no good young defensive midfielders. Looking at the current young talent we're gonna end up the same as we have for years: a squad full of world beaters but no balance. We're almost definitely gonna have another Gerrard/Lampard situation with Wilshere and Morrison or Cleverley or somebody.


Ooh, also Welbeck is ahead of Chamberlain, McEachran and Walcott provided he recovers well from his injury.

Cartwright is only 22, Van Bommel in the making?

We have Cattermole and Muamba.


Not incredible, but they could do a job.


Look at Busquets though, he's not a great footballer but he has good footballers around him and works in a successful side. Maybe that could be the same for England?

you talk of needing vision like ozil...well take a look at mceachran,he has that vision all he needs now is physique, he is amazingly confident and comfortable with the ball and presents himself on the pitch like hes been play PL for years
I think he'd need to be playing every week to be considered at this level.  That's why there's a lot of fuss over Wilshere I would imagine.

I find this coverage of Wilshire amazing.


He reminds of Joe Cole. Very good technically, bit a jack of all trades; master of none player IMHO.


And how can you build a team around a player who's best position you do not know?


And is it not alittle...undermining of other's abilities, especially those midfielders sandwiched in between the likes of Wilshire and the establishment of Lampard, Gerrard and Barry?

I wasn't suggesting the team was to be built around him.

It was a suggestion that he is leading the "new breed" coming through.



I think as I said, some United fans don't like to admit it when other clubs have great talents coming through. In particular when they are Arsenal players.


I like to think i'm not that bitter though :)

Got to agree with Jimmy here...


I just can't get my head around the hype of Wilshere...


Sure he looks a good player, but he's not exactly setting the world alight is he, maybe it's just because he's the first English player in a long time that can actually pass the ball quite well.


I think he will become a good player, but he'll never reach Fabregas' level and before his injury Ramsey showed more potential than Wilshere did.


I just wish for once the English media would leave a few of the youngsters alone, give them a few years to develop properly instead of pinning our hopes on raw 18 year olds, and then we'll see how they turn out.

I think Wilshere has the potential to be a very good player in the future. In what really is his first full season playing in the Premier League he's done extremely well and looks such an accomplished young footballer at just 19 years of age.


I totally agree with the comment about the media putting unnecessary pressure on him at such an early stage in his career. There's no need for it, just let the lad get on with it and see how he develops for Arsenal and for England.


My one worry about him though, is his capability to play in a 4-4-2. Him and Lampard didn't really protect the back 4 well enough on Wednesday which would be a big concern when playing against better teams. Personally I don't think we have the midfielders to play in a 4-4-2 against the better teams anyway so we'll just have to wait and see what happens when we do.


We were supposed to originally play Argentina this week but I don't know what happened with that. Our next game against one of the better nations is Holland in August.

probably a blessing in disguise that we didn't play argentina, would've been another media circus dredging up the hand of god crap instead of letting people concentrate on the game.


agree on the media, they like to meddle with everything though so its unlikely they'll stop any time soon.



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