Liverpool Continue the Tarnish the Name of a Great Club.

Lets put the game to bed, quite simply, the reason we all love and hate football. United dominated without ever looking likely to take the game away from their fallen rivals. Liverpool took their chances and won. Well done, that's football no problem with that, Kenny isn't the first and won't be the last to send out a team on the defensive against United, and it won't be the last time United will be sucker punched by team keeping it tight and playing on the break. 

I had £5 on Liverpool to do the cup double before they beat City and got 30-1 so don't get me wrong I want Liverpool to now win the cups.

However the comments, the boo'ing and the "debate" around it have all missed the point. Kenny said the tone was "about right", "good banter"... really? "Players get boo'ed all the time" Dalglish confidently said... erm yes but most of the time it is because the fans feel they have been wronged by the player... players going back and getting boo'd, players who get boo'd for causing injury, players who get boo'd for not performing, players get boo'ed for lots of reasons... but its generally because of something they have done. When Liverpool rock up to OldTrafford and Suarez is roundly boo'ed and abused he'll have brought that upon him self... with Evra though.. he is the player who was wronged, irrespective of the "if" and "buts" and the excuses that have been banded around, nothing has ever come of this stance by Kenny and Liverpool,  Suarez has been found guilty and been given punishment. 

Liverpool fans disgraced their club... a club that already is begining to look like a bull dog eating the thistle backwards... The Boo'ing was bad enough when Evra had done no wrong... but then the chants... I ain't going to repeat them because they were wrong, childish and nasty. Lets not pretend it was "just a few"... "just a few" doesn't get picked up by pitch side microphones quite like that.... and then for it to be dismissed as "banter" by Kenny Dalgish who would have heard it is more evidence to the fact that King Kenny is a PR idiot.

Will Evra worry about being Boo'ed? No, will Evra complain to the FA about the "banter" I guess United would ask him not to but it wouldn't surprise me and just maybe it's time for Liverpool to play behind some closed doors for a while and see how impressed the American owners are with that... of course it won't happen... but if the fans can't use a modicum of their brains and behave and then the manager comes out and simply dismisses it lightly as "banter" then how is that good for football? A player being abused because they reported grotesque behaviour by a fellow professional... can Liverpool fans, that attended this game, see that what happened reaches out beyond football... it's a social problem, it's an education problem... Suarez may have been a mistake, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have been punished. This wasn't about football or your team, this was about righting a wrong which the FA did and all fans should support. Evra didn't deserve to be boo'ed, if Liverpool fans want to boo someone, want to vent their anger at the person who is at fault, wait until Suarez come back and boo him, he is the sole person responsible for his ban and everything else... will that happen though? 

Reports suggest the new owners are already less then impressed with Dalgish's on the pitch performance, but add that to the Suarez Saga and really I think Kenny should have listened to the old adage...

"Never Go Back"

Liverpool fans may still be seeing life in tinted rose, but the rest of the world are seeing a great club tumble in terms of both on and off the pitch reputations...

Every club needs to leave it's hero's behind eventually... perhaps they should have left Kenny behind a long time ago... 

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Comment by John Thomas on February 29, 2012 at 9:31

You persist in lying Jordan, if you don't wish to persist, then don't, but do not think for a moment that having the last word will validate your dishonest and discredited assertions.

Comment by John Thomas on February 18, 2012 at 11:05

"Affectionately ruffling"?

That is just laughable Jordan. The one person outed as a "completely immoral character" in all this is you with the obscene misrepresentations you persist with. Take off the makeup, ditch the clown shoes and return to reality, because clowns don't deliver convincing propaganda.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 14:51

And again back to the same disingenuous Poyet, Pacheco reference which omits the salient detail that the term is offensive and unacceptable when used in an acrimonious context. Get some integrity.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 13:50

Again you're deliberately ignoring the fact that Suarez himself admitted using the word which makes a mockery of everything you've said.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 13:25

"No acceptable train of thought"? In the heat of a NW derby, you're unable to see an acceptable train of thought? Intent is demonstrated by actions, but you're just seeing what you want to see. 

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 13:04

"Nice constructive response there, pal. "

Coming from a chap who has been equivocating on behalf of Luis Suarez guilty of racially abusing Patrice Evra, I could have vomited over my keyboard and been constructive by comparison.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 12:53

"sadly chopped" Jordan? Are you under the impression that you are enriching the zeitgeist with such witless quips as:

"I assumed you needed to go to Specsavers and your eyes un-focus at random intervals, so you miss my points."

You're the only person present who thinks equivocating on behalf of Suarez, a man guilty of racist abuse is clever and you'll receive no acclaim among reasoned minds here. So if you are so intent upon pleasing yourself that you have to draft responses, I suggest there are routes of less resistance through which he can reach that end on say 99% of the websites that comprise the rest of the internet.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 11:40

No Jordan, since reasoning requires an openness to truth, what you're doing is the antithesis of reasoning.

Your dishonesty is laid bare frankly when you say:

"You and I both know that Gus Poyet and Dani Pacheco have shown that the Spanish speakers used such terms to their mates"

Yes, the term can be used jovially amongst friends but you're telling a half-truth, because you omit mentioning, that the term is offensive when used aggressively with people you aren't pally with.

As Bill Maher said best "denial of racism is the new racism" and as you continue to lie Jordan, you're more transparent than you think. 

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 9:23

Suarez admitted to using the word. Equivocate with that.

Comment by John Thomas on February 12, 2012 at 2:40

Btw World Class, didn't see this article at the time but great stuff, it was a really good read.


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